Gotham Fishtales discussion:
-confusion, where were they fishing? Foreign fish; Hudson river tidal’; don’t realize near mouth, saltwater ecology too, eels, exotic species
-eating contaminated fish, repercussions for fetuses, disadvantaged fishermen/women
-certain ethnicities supplement heavily diets, more toxins
Wealthier, fly-fishing, more for entertainment
Patrol for size of fish v. do individuals actually impact over industry catch
- communication of toxicity doesn’t get to enough people
- ¾ money on Rainbow & Brown Trout, ¼ money into regular game fish
- Cleanliness of water?
- Idea of Sterile City, people surprised that there are fish, nature
- Old train to reef, justification: can’t afford structure for reef, environmental issues, research, company had to sanitize (dredged, destroyed original reef)
Our Role in Nature
Argument: are we irrelevant (even though we straighten the Mississip, nature more powerful)
“Tragedy of the Commons” issue, finite resources
Why should we care?
Economic benefits of green space, emotional benefit
Discussion on Scientific Articles:
Issues w/ not enough scientific,
Argument against green space?
Greening as community empowerment rather than natural resources argument
Horticultural Therapy
Enough green space, but actually need to get out in it
But what if there are danger issues; different factors
Social interaction outside is benefiting, not purely greenery’s effect
We are wedded to infrastructure of soc. Issues
Greening- one of easiest ways to improve commty
Grupo 2: philosophical debate: value systems, relationship bet. Wealthy & green space,
Girls & self confidence, diff bet boys w/ how they play, encouraged to play outside
Surrounded by technology
What is important v. other cultures w/different values – could a new Yorker in Kenya survive?
Why is the tree there? Wealth initiates it or does green initiate wealth?
Victorian cities & gardening > resistance movement, women control food
-your dedicated notetaker
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